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Posted by Franklin ® , 2001/03/21, 19:39:20   Archive
Hello again to the "family" and a special hello to all the new folks that have signed on. I'm still struggling with this flare (since Oct. '99) and have tried imuran and for the last 9 months methotrexate both to no avail. Every time we try to reduce the prednisone (40mg/day) the myositis flares back up eventually and so we increase it to get the disease back under control. In a couple weeks we are set to try cyclosporine. The doc is sending me the phamplets and I'll check on the net for info. but I know a lot of good information I can get from all of you. So, if anyone of you with cyclosporine experience would care to enlighten me, I'm interested. Thanks Franklin

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Re: cyclosporine -- Franklin
Posted by Jan/PM ® , 2001/03/23, 12:04:16 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Franklin-

I've never been on the cyclosporine.The only thing I've heard about it is to watch for infections and not to take it with grapefruit for some reason.

I've had severe poly for 15 years and have slowly but surely lost strength everywhere.The meds seem to do nothing to alter it's course.I been on prednisone for 12 years and mxt for about 7 years.

I also developed steriod myopathy when I was put on 80 mgs of prednisone.My teeth are effected by 30 years of sjogren's and the resulting dry mouth.

I also developed high blood pressure but the weirdiest thing happened,after having the flu and bronchitis,my blood pressures has dropped.The doctor thought I was dehydrated but it has stayed low.

Let us know how the cyclosporine works for you,if you take it.
Jan


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Re: cyclosporine -- Franklin
Posted by James R. Kilpatrick ® , 2001/03/23, 10:11:46 Top of Thread Archive
Franklin -

It's good to be back home on our website, isn't it? I hope that your flare has subsided.

I chose not to accept Prednisone when I was dx with IBM. That was in August 1991. I think I did right in that decision. IBM is bad enough w/o all the side effects of Prednisone.

It's good to have you online again. As you have noticed, we've grown in size on the website - but still have the best people in the world as our support team.

Jim

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Re: cyclosporine -- Franklin
Posted by James R. Kilpatrick ® , 2001/03/23, 10:11:00 Top of Thread Archive
Franklin -

It's good to be back home on our website, isn't it? I hope that your flare has subsided.

I chose not to accept Prednisone when I was dx with IBM. That was in August 1991. I think I did right in that decision. IBM is bad enough w/o all the side effects of Prednisone.

It's good to have you online again. As you have noticed, we've grown in size on the website - but still have the best people in the world as our support team.

Jim

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Re: cyclosporine -- Franklin
Posted by karen-- ® , 2001/03/22, 08:45:46 Top of Thread Archive
Have you and your doctor ever tried, two of the immunosupressants, I have been on two at a time in the very beginning along with the prednisone. Yes i was on cyclosporine also, I did have some nausea. I also was doing mtx injected.. You maybe at the point or peak, like i was, where nothing seemed to work, and then all of a sudden, the mtx after 3 months kicked in.. I too, though have that same problem with the prednisone. My doctor has added just celebrex when we start to wean back down. I am on a temporary increase until my surgery for teeth and then resuming the tapering again.. I find my level now is 30mg and i start to have problems. Right now i am at 45 for 3 days or more, then back to 40 for a week and resume tapering 1mg a week..I did get down to 30mg, and started to lose the remission.. I had 7 weeks...gotta keep trying.. I want to get off the prednisone, because as a result of the higher doses for 2 years, I have lost all my teeth...Yes they just crumbled in a matter of weeks. The enamel fell off. This is why i am doing dentures. I have to get another bone scan.. He also feels i have developed osterarthirits due to the prednisone. I do take HRT, because of my hysterectomy. Now the doctor thinks i have a hip problem..Such is the life on prednisone for 10 year huh? No, we are not discussing replacement, just trying to get off the prednisone. 30mg is my breaking point.. i hope to at least get down to 10mg. Ask your doctor if you can combine something else with your other meds, rather than increasing the pred., or have you heard of IVIG.. Ask him about that also.. I have never done it...My orginal flare (big one) started in JUne of 1999, with a six to seven week remission just recently... but it happened, a remmission. hang in there you will get a remission too.. all the best Karen

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Posted by Franklin ® , 2001/03/23, 09:29:26 Top of Thread Archive
Karen,
Thanks for your support. I have a great doctor. She has mentioned using a combination of drugs if this doesn't work. I was on the mtx for 9 months and it never did kick in. I tried the imuran for 7 months with the same result. I have found that the most effective control of my PM is prednisone. I have been on it for 13 of my 17 years with PM. When I try to decrease it (this last time we got to 40mg/10mg every other day) the PM flares back up and when we increase it to control the PM it works. Then after a time we try to decrease again and go through it all again. It, too, has caused more problems than the disease. I developed type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, steroid myopathy, muscle loss and bone problems. So far I haven't had any tooth problems. I feel bad for you and the teeth you have had to lose. Perhaps after your mouth heals things will get better. I have had some remissions over the years but it has been a while since the last one. You take care and stay on the board. Franklin


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new IBM :-@


Posted by Richard ibm ® , 2001/03/21, 16:49:58   Archive
I am new to this site and having problems posting a messageI found out 4 monthes ago that I have IBM and am having good days and bad days. I am on Predesone 20mg for 3 weeks and at first it helped but now not so good. I would like to hear of others with IBM to hear early experiences with this disease.

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Posted by Richard ibm ® , 2001/03/21, 16:48:39   Archive
I am new to this site and having problems posting a messageI found out 4 monthes ago that I have IBM and am having good days and bad days. I am on Predesone 20mg for 3 weeks and at first it helped but now not so good. I would like to hear of others with IBM to hear early experiences with this disease.

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Re: new IBM -- Richard ibm
Posted by James R. Kilpatrick ® , 2001/03/21, 17:08:22 Top of Thread Archive
Hello, Richard:

Welcome to our Myositis website. (Your other two posts came through alright.)

I was diagnosed (finally) in August 1991 with IBM. Because of a previous horrible experience with Prednisone, I refused to take it. I have never taken anything for IBM. I do take medication for the pain that IBM causes in my feet and legs at night.

Most experiences I've heard from those taking Prednisone at the beginning, it is relatively short lived (a few years, at best) and then it's effectiveness wanes.

I'm sure your physician told you there are few medications to help IBM patients. IVIg has helped a few for a short time, but it is very, very expensive. Both Prednisone and Metx. have their side effects which often bring on more problems than any help.

Please feel free to post any messages - or to answer to previous messages. This is the most friendliest Myositis internet website.

Already outgrowing by leaps and bounds, the webmaster will be installing another bulletin board program that will allow us to have 10 bulletin boards from this one site which no other Myositis group has.

When he completes all the installation, all the goodies connected and added, our group will have the greatest website for the greatest group in the world.

Welcome, Richard, from me and the entire group.

Jim-IBM

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New IBM :-@


Posted by Richard ibm ® , 2001/03/21, 16:39:33   Archive
I am having a hard time posting a message

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New IBM


Posted by Richard ibm ® , 2001/03/21, 16:29:53   Archive
I am posting my first message and wonder were I am headed. I have known for 4 months I have IBM and seam to be changing daily. I have up's and down's. I have been on Predisone 20mg for 3 weeks and got better a first but now not so good. I would like to know what your experience have benn in the early stages of IBM.

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Posted by Richard ibm ® , 2001/03/21, 16:27:58   Archive
I am posting my first message and wonder were I am headed. I have known for 4 months I have IBM and seam to be changing daily. I have up's and down's. I have been on Predisone 20mg for 3 weeks and got better a first but now not so good. I would like to know what your experience have benn in the early stages of IBM.

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Re: New IBM -- Richard ibm
Posted by RichardGaulke ® , 2001/03/26, 12:02:12 Top of Thread Archive
HI: I am 69, newly diagnosed with symptoms going back about three years. First noticed that I could not hold a golv club, about three years ago. A year latter I had trouble climbing stairs and that's where I am not. I am on a diet to control triglicerides but hope to lose 40 lbs to take the load off the weak legs. No pain, thank God. I am taking prednisone but don't think I will be for long. What I have read on the net is not encouraging about prednisone and my MD agrees but we said we would give it a try. Prednisone hasn't helped that I can notice.

I have posted several messages on the MAA Board about my theory that some of us IBM's had our disease activated by takig one or more of the drugs used to treat high levels of chloresterol and triglicerides. Have received about six comments saying that they had.PLEASE EMAIL ME IF YOU HAVE!!!

Good luck, being seeing you on the net, here and maybe at MAA.

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Re: New IBM -- Richard ibm
Posted by Dorris/IBM ® , 2001/03/24, 20:02:04 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Richard,
I was diagnosed in 1996 and started Prednisone(30mg daily) to reduce the pain and inflamation.I am down to 15mg every other day.I feel like it has helped to stabilize my IBM. I also do water exercise and this past year begun to swim a little. I did not have the strenght to swim when I began the water exercise 3 years ago. I go thru periods when the pain and weakness are worse, and if I have a good day and over do it, I am wiped out for 2 or 3 days. I have learned not to push myself and let a LOT of things go undone.
Best wishes,
Dorris


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Re: New IBM -- Richard ibm
Posted by James R. Kilpatrick ® , 2001/03/23, 10:36:31 Top of Thread Archive
Richard -

Let us hear from you more often so we will know how you are handling the IBM.

Jim -IBM

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Re: New IBM -- Richard ibm
Posted by BrianIBM ® , 2001/03/23, 08:04:59 Top of Thread Archive
Richard, welcome. I wonder what stage of IBM you are at. So often people get diagnosed as much as 10 years after first symptoms. Experience seems to be that no treatments work for IBM and that many are diagnosed with IBM only after an earlier diagnosis as PM and prednisone failing to have any effect.

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Posted by Ann ibm ny ® , 2001/03/22, 11:33:14 Top of Thread Archive
hi...i'm 61 and was dxed with ibm 10 years ago...i was in an ivig study at the nih and then had ivig treatments locally for 9 months..it did not offer much , if any help..after that i have taken no other meds...my strength has continued to decline and i am struggling to stay walking indoors for short distances..this lastyear has seen me needing more and more help with daily living activities..others however seem not to have lost quite as much strength over time...so..it seems that the course of ibm differs among us...i would suggest you read up as much as possible and check in on all bulletin boards on myositis..the myositis association of america's bb is another good source for info...in fact, on that board another richard posted, newly dx with ibm..i thought you were one and the same..but i see you're from different areas of usa...... you might also discuss with your doc the possibilty of trying ivig..i felt it helped me a little when i was first dx and i often wondered if it would have been more helpful if i had that 9 months of it at that time instead of 2 years later .i do not recall anyone with ibm posting that prednisone helped them..that med can have serious side effects, so make sure you consider how long you want to take it by discussing it with your doc...good luck..if you like, i can help you contact, by e-mail, some other ibmers...regards...Ann

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Re: New IBM -- Richard ibm
Posted by Janet TX DM ® , 2001/03/21, 17:17:46 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Richard

Welcome...I don't have IBM, so I can't help you there, but as far as your problem with posting....After you post a message, go back to the bulletin board page and click on the third bar down, over on the left to "Reload Forum". This is the only way that you will be able to see your message. Sometimes, when I've been scanning the bulletin board for a while, I have to click on "reload" to see any new post others may have made.

Blessings and healthy wishes...Janet

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Re: New IBM -- Richard ibm
Posted by Jan/PM ® , 2001/03/21, 16:57:26 Top of Thread Archive
Welcome Richard,your post are coming through just fine.I have PM and take prednisone but I know some of the IBMER's feel the medicine's do not help them and take nothing.I will let them address that issue.But welcome aboard.
Jan


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We have a new member! Please welcome john scholten


Posted by Webmaster , 2001/03/21, 12:47:05   Archive
john scholten, Welcome to the Myositis Support Group Discussion Board!

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Re: We have a new member! Please welcome john scholten -- Webmaster
Posted by James R. Kilpatrick ® , 2001/03/24, 18:39:51 Top of Thread Archive
John,

I'm glad you used your name; it was getting confusing because we were getting name confusion, not really knowing which "Jan" we were referring to.

I have a tremendous question to make. Can you re-write the exact posting you sent 3/24/01 - ONLY - CHANGING THE TOPIC.

I feel that your message is so important and since the original posting was actually a sub-posting, the Topic Name should be a grabber - like "Your Help Is Needed" or something like that.

This will bring more immediate attention. The posting of today was a sub-post message way down the list, several days ago; most likely wouldn't be noticed.

I sure thank you and I will offer any help I can for you.

Jim

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Re: Re: We have a new member! Please welcome john scholten -- James R. Kilpatrick
Posted by James R. Kilpatrick ® , 2001/03/24, 19:30:27 Top of Thread Archive
John -

I've been thinking about a topic subject. How does "IBM - Need IBM Help"

This way, only IBMers will answer your questions, etc. "Directly from the horse's mouth," as we say in East Texas.

Jim

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Re: We have a new member! Please welcome john scholten -- Webmaster
Posted by Cindy Kain ® , 2001/03/21, 15:11:35 Top of Thread Archive
Hi John,

I'm new to the group also... keep in touch and let us know how you are coming along. I finally have an appointment to see a specialist next week. Keep the faith!

Cindy

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