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Posted by David Bidwell ® , 2001/04/18, 19:33:33   Archive
Hello everyone, I have enjoyed reading your posts. Awesome community. I went to the rheumetologist today, and he is doing a quick reduction on prednisone. I am at 40 mg, and have been for about a month and a half. He did this to me before, and I know I am going to be the one who regrets it. I have those electrical feeling pains in my arms and legs, and he thinks its nueropathy from the prednisone. I suppose he could be right, but I am having doubts. He did give me some Perkoset, so while I may be in pain, I wont CARE as much, I suppose. I have been off of work this week because of the PM, and I want to go back, but it hurts.[I hear all those "aawww, poor BABY"s out there!] Thank you Jim and Kelly for all your hard work on this board.

My levels were only 537, which were the lowest they have been so far since I got this yuchy thing. I had my first bought of depression last weekend, when my wife was impatient with me for not being able to open a box that contained dresses for my little 3 and 6 year old daughters. I started crying and couldnt stop, that sucked.

I am okay now, but like someone here said, you cant underestimate the power of this disease on your pysche.

Talk to you soon.

Dave

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Posted by Mary McNishPM ® , 2001/04/21, 20:55:24 Top of Thread Archive
David, about those electrical feelings. I know them all too well. Ask your doctor about a diagnosis of neuropathy, better still get yourself another doctor. Your guy sounds a bit irresposible in decreasing your prednisone QUICKLY. The general advice is to come down slowly, slowly, slowly! Back to the neuropathy, I found Neurontin has stopped the electrical bursts, I was practically levitating, but it has done nothing for the burning pain. Another doc I know says the electrical bit masks the burning bit, and when you fix it up t'other is more prominent. Great isn't it. In the meantime, as you Yanks say,"have a good day!"

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Posted by David Bidwell ® , 2001/04/22, 03:24:15 Top of Thread Archive
Thank you Mary! I am going to see what happens. I see him again in a month or whenever the prednisone is completely not controlling my ck levels anymore, which I think will come first. Have you got a good pain reliever? I recommend Perkoset! Its not really stopping the neuropathy pain, but I dont seem to care about it anymore. If it keeps up, and does get worse I will be asking him about the Nuerontin. It doesnt seem to be getting any better, of course. In my immediate future I predict pain Pain PAIN! I will get through it, with God's help, and maybe the Doc will learn something too. I just hope that God's purpose in giving me this disease wasnt just to teach my rheumy not to be so self confident!

G'day!

dave

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Posted by Phyllis Mace ® , 2001/04/20, 09:14:49 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Dave, May I add some thoughts from a different perspective. I feel qualified to do this as I had breast cancer eight years ago and am a survivor now.

My husband has IBM for almost five years that we are aware of. So knowing that, I feel I can speak from both sides of the fence. Long term treatment on a high dosage of prednisone or solumedrol wreak havoc on the emotions. My husband would fly off the handle and yell at me for the most mundane things that ordinarily before this dreaded disease, he wouldn't even had noticed yet alone had made a fuss about. One time after a solumedrol infusion, he didn't sleep for over 48 hrs. and had to take some tylenol PM to get to sleep.

My point I want to make to you was true for my husband when I was sick and is true for me now and it is this, It is difficult to watch the one you love deal with a difficult condition and feel so helpless about being able to help them. It not only frustrates the patient but also the caregiver.

Please try to talk to your wife about this. Both apologize to each other when needed and try to remember that the other person is dealing with frustration also. This has helped my husband and me find a way to continue to live with each other and this dreaded disease. Please, I hope I'm not sounding too preachy, I'm only trying to offer something that has worked for us.

All my best wishes to you and your beautiful family! God bless and hugs to you.... Phyllis

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Posted by Frankie-DM-TX ® , 2001/04/19, 19:49:58 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Dave, lovely family you have, I enjoyed seeing the picture. I'm sorry about the quick reduction in prednisone, I learned to dread those because all my symptoms would return and the fatigue is horrible. Prednisone is a double edged sword. It gave me relief from my itching rash (I have DM) but now some of the side effects are starting to wreak havoc with me. I went for a diabetes test last week, because my blood sugar is slowly rising from the prednisone. I got the results today and so far I'm still not diabetic. The weight gain is relentless. Real men do cry. I hope your symptoms don't worsen with the pred reduction. Take care and good to hear from you.

Frankie

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Posted by David Bidwell ® , 2001/04/19, 21:40:26 Top of Thread Archive
Thank you Frankie. I went through this once before, just back in november or december I thought, and the PM got pretty bad. I hope it doesnt do it again. The doc told me if it does he isnt doing his job. Well, I think he may be giving himself a little bit of extra credit there, but we will see. I have diabetes and high blood pressure already, so this was just another notch in my "belt-o-diseases". Of course this gets its very own section of THAT belt. Good luck with the diabetes and the weight gain. I was doing really good on that, having gained about 18 pounds and kept it there. That still makes for 338 lbs though, and they would like to see that go down a little.
How long have you had the DM? Is the rash pretty noticable? and this question is for everyone..when you see fellow handicapped people in scooters and electric wheelchairs dont you want to ask them if it is a myositis? I use the scooters at the Mall of America here and WalMart, and I see the looks I get and ignore them quite well. But, you just want to know if that brother or sister is going thru the same thing you are, dontcha know?
Talk to you guys later. There is a great show on cable about tunnel drilling equipment. Thank God for Digital Cable!

Dave

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Posted by Ann ibm ny ® , 2001/04/19, 17:26:38 Top of Thread Archive
hi..great pic...you are fortunate to have a lovly family...enjoy the girls before the trying teens...i have three sons.. married with 6 grandbabies among them ...i had 4 grandaugthers before the two grandsons arrived via my youngest..girls were a new experience for me..they are very different than boys..it's just true..but loveable all..take care..Ann

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Posted by David Bidwell ® , 2001/04/19, 08:29:19 Top of Thread Archive
I just thought I would post a picture of just before I was diagnosed. I still look the same, but never get to wear a tuxedo. That is my family and we were at my brother in laws wedding. Thank you all so much for the posts and responses. Hugs to you all!!

I have always been a "sensitive guy". I cry at the drop of a hat, and all my friends at work laugh at me cause if they are talking about babies or families or anything Disney, I ball. I am not ashamed to be a ball baby. There, I said it.
"Hello, my name is David and I am a ball baby." LOL. You guys are right, and I am just making light of it. It is hard to understand for the family members. My daughters have a lot of sympathy, and it is always there. Isnt it amazing how unconditional the love of your children is? Now matter how bad the prednisone swings your mood. They of course arent teenagers yet.

You know the guy on the bus that wont start talking about himself? You guys just invited him into your HOME!!! [evil laugh goes here]

I am kind of stoned on perkoset right now, so I will come look at this later and make sure I didnt look too dumb.

Thank you and hugs to you all.

Dave
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Posted by Helen ® , 2001/04/19, 21:00:48 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Dave: What a lovely picture of you and your family. You should be so proud. I had always wanted to have a daughter, but we were only blessed with one boy because ofter he came along so did the myositis. We aren't grandparents yet as our son has just finished his master's degree in acquatic biology and toxicology. He's definitely an out of doors person and the acquatic experience has really done him well. While he's still waiting for that first job to gain experience, he at least has a couple of part timers coming up one for a month in ND and the other for 3 months in Montana and hopefully after that he'll be closer to home which is southern WI. We're praying very hard to have him closer to home. Those 2 1/2 years he did in ME were terrible on me. Just since he's been home the past 3 weeks have really made a difference in how I feel.

I really hope you get some help with your health soon. The drugs are nasty, nasty, but if they help just a little bit it is worth it.

Hang in there Dave and use this board as often as you want. We've all been there and we look to each other for support.
Helen.


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Posted by David Bidwell ® , 2001/04/19, 21:45:56 Top of Thread Archive
Thank you Helen! hey, I am your neighbour over here in MN!!Im glad you your son is doing so well school wise. We will pray he gets a job close to you, there are plenty of lakes and water here in the midwest. Is he trying for a job in your DNR?
Daughters are awesome, and I admit I am selfish in wanting girls beacuse of the relationship with thier daddy.

Dave

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Posted by Helen ® , 2001/04/20, 17:24:59 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Dave: Just to answer your question about our son Steve, yes he has just sent in two different resume's to the DNR and would you believe they're actually right in his field. We also are hoping that the experience he had at working the summer months with the DNR a few years ago while doing his undergraduate work, will help a little too.

Dave, kids are fun. To me that was the best profession in the world. I truly enjoyed being a mom, even if I was a sickly mom. So we're hoping for a close daughter-in-law someday and if they live close enough to us, I'm hoping for a close mother-in-law/daughter-in-law relationship so we can maybe do some shopping together or out to lunch once in a while and maybe someday we'll have beautiful grandchildren which I know I will truly enjoy.

I read through the postings and you got some pretty nice advice from some really nice people. Like someone else wrote this is a terrible disease for us, but it is a scarey disease for our spouses and children to handle. Just know Dave, that I'll include you in my prayers for both you and your family.
Sincerely,
Helen.
I guess we are neighbors, huh???


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Posted by Susan[DM] Bolt ® , 2001/04/19, 17:28:13 Top of Thread Archive
Dear David,

You don't know me, but in a way we all know each other.

I would just like to say three things:

1) REAL men cry.

2) Myositis hurts like hell (yes, this is the preacher lady.)

3) You and your family make a handsome picture, and I hope you don't mind--I saved it in my "Friends" folder.

(((Gentle Hugs)))
Susan


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Posted by Franklin/PM ® , 2001/04/19, 15:07:49 Top of Thread Archive
David and family,
What a great picture. You are lucky to have two lovely daughters. We have one and she is thirty. Her two boys are fine looking sons and are 8 and 6. I guess that makes me OLD. However, enjoy them because they grow and change so fast. Stay positive and hang in. Franklin


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Posted by Jan/PM ® , 2001/04/19, 09:00:53 Top of Thread Archive
Hi David,

I enjoyed the picture.How lucky you are to have such beautiful little girls.You will be amazed at how perceptive children can be.My 12 year granddaughter senses how I feel quicker than anyone.We have to teach the adults.

I cry mostly at someone's insensitivity or ignorance of the disease.Doctors can be just as guilty.I found myself apologizing for things I could not do.That is nonsense!! Would they expect a paralyzed person to suddenly walk? People need to be educated to the limitations the disease causes and the pain involved.

Your honesty and speaking from the heart is very refreshing.We will truly enjoy hearing from you.

Jan

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Posted by Evert (Ed) van Maanen ® , 2001/04/19, 05:30:47 Top of Thread Archive
Good Morning David,
Congratulations on the lower C.K. levels. That shows the meds are doing some good. Be very cautious in lowering your prednisone dosage too quickly. The doctor may think it's alright to do that, but he does not live in your body, you do. If you start to feel badly get hold of your M.D. and tell him you are going to taper more slowly.
It's going to be difficult, but work may have to become a lower priority than getting better. If you don't improve you are going to not be able to work anyway, so concentrate on getting better. Unfortunately you are going to have to be selfish in guarding the reserves of strength that you have left. It is hard to say no to people, but you only have so many resources and are going to have to be careful how you dole them out. Look on it as money in the bank, you only have so much in your account(if you are like most of us), and when that is gone it takes a while to replenish. You only have so much energy, and when it is gone, it is gone, and takes a while to regain.
Because most of us have no visible signs of our condition it is very hard for people around us to accept that indeed we are sick. You have to make allowances for that, and not let it frustrate you. Easier said than done.
I too cry from time to time and find it a great release from tension. Although we are culturally programmed that men don't cry, being a myositis patient has given me a whole new set of parameters. I'm not fond of most of them, but on the whole I can live with them.
I see that I'm waxing eloquent again so I'll stop now. Kind Regards and Be Strong Dave, Ed.


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Posted by Helen ® , 2001/04/18, 22:03:09 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Dave: I'm sorry to hear you're feeling so badly, but this is definitely the place to be and no-one and I mean no-one that has this disease will put you down for anything. It is a horrible disease to deal with and family members not realizing just how sick you are can make you feel even sicker. Just remember that we're all here for you and this is where you do your venting, because we've all been there and truly do understand. I hope you'll be feeling better soon.
Helen.


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Posted by James R. Kilpatrick ® , 2001/04/18, 21:48:47 Top of Thread Archive
Dave -

Don't be ashamed of tears. Real men do cry. If you read Kelly's post at #1057, I was near tears because I know him so well. He had never written from his heart as was in that post.

For the past two weeks I've had to wipe the tears away several times. Today, I had a computer problem. Kelly drove out of his way to make the installment of AOL's 6.0 when my AOL 5.0 died in trying to change email addresses.

I thanked Kelly for his note earlier on Wednesday morning and how it touched me, knowing how he expressed his feelings about our group, like everyone was part of his family, too.

Today, in my office, he told me that he felt like it was intended that he help make the website the best we could afford because he didn't know how much our group's problems just become multiplied time and time again; how so many depended on our site to be part of their lives. He said he felt he just had to help us, felt that it was almost a calling as part of his life at this time.

Tears began rolling down my cheeks and I was so choked up I could barely express my love and appreciation to him in behalf of our group. We've been friends for 5 years.

Kelly is 31 years old with a heart of pure gold, giving tireless hours, having more wisdom and such a pure attitude of helping others with his healthy body and brillient mind, than anyone twice his age.

Last week I asked if he would be an honorary pallbearer at my funeral and the tears started again. It seems like I cry more now.

On Easter Sunday, my teenage grandchildren were here, bringing the video of their UIL high school band competition, and the tears just flowed. (They and the band are in competition at Disney World in Orlando this weekend and part of next week, flying out Saturday morning.)

After Kelly left my home at 3:30 PM today, he still had 3 appointments covering over 400 miles before he can get home sometime after midnight. That is the kind of guy he is - a true marvel to all of us with Myositis.

So, David, don't be afraid of crying. If you are reducing Prednisone quickly, that might be part of the problem.

About you not opening the boxes of the girl's dresses, I had to wait until Kelly came today to open an ink cartridge carton because I couldn't with my weak fingers and hands.

Dave, if you find out that you can't do something you're asked to do, if you can't do it, just say so and don't worry about it. You wife is unaware of the inner perspectiveness we hold unsaid within us and that only compicates our problems.

Have a good tomorrow, Dave. Kelly and I thank you for your kind words about all the work and expense it takes to keep this website going and growing. - Jim IBM

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Good Morning everyone! :-)


Posted by Kelly P. Miller ® , 2001/04/18, 10:30:11   Archive
Hello everyone!

I hope you are all doing well. I just wanted to drop a note to remind you all that if you have any problems with the board(s) you can drop Jim or Myself an e-mail and we will take care of it right away. My e-mail address is kmiller@WebmastersOfEastTexas.com and Jim's is JRKilpatrickMYO@aol.com.

I am so glad that everyone likes the new format of the website. If anyone has any suggestions for a survey question, feel free to e-mail that to Jim or Myself also.

Remember, we are all loved. God doesn't give us more than he knows we can handle and there's a reason for everything. (We just may not realize it yet.) Keep your head held high. When you feel depressed, log onto the board and share your feelings. We will do our best to make you feel better and to know you are not alone.

I hope everyone has a great day!

Kelly
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Posted by James R. Kilpatrick ® , 2001/04/18, 21:51:45 Top of Thread Archive
Hello, everyone -

Please read post #1067 on the PM BB. It will tell you what a wonderful man, and dear friend of mine, we have in Kelly being our webmaster. - Jim

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Posted by James R. Kilpatrick ® , 2001/04/18, 22:03:14 Top of Thread Archive
Sorry, guys and gals. I goofed. Post #1067 is just above and not on the PM BB. (Because Dave has PM, I just automatically moved him - :>( Sorry, Dave....)

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Posted by Jan/PM ® , 2001/04/18, 11:44:15 Top of Thread Archive
Kelly-

Thanks to you and Jim for your dedication and hard work.We don't always say it but we know your there.You and Jim are the wind beneath our rather broken wings.Your support is dearly needed and appreciated.

Jan

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Posted by Helen ® , 2001/04/18, 16:40:15 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Kelly: I just want to send a ditto to Jan's message. Thanks much for the great board and everything that you and Jim do for all of us.
Take care and have a good day.
Helen.


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