Neuropathy ??'s - need help.
Hi, I'm new to this board (this month,) in the past and still do I also post on the MAA board. And thank you to my new "family" members, everyone here has been very supportive. So first a little about myself. I am a 47 year old women with DM since 1971. It's my 30 year aniversary this month and honestly it is hitting me pretty hard. I have lost a lot of muscle mass over the years due to the disease and lack of use and the prednisone too. I use a walker most of the time now and no longer drive. I'm happily "sudo-married" to my significant other for 11 years. No kids. I do bookkeeping work at home on the computer for my hubby's house painting business & 2 other small businesses. I try to garden and am working on getting out more with my friends but this is tough and life gets a bit lonely at times. I do a lot of wishful thinking and have my "pitty-parties" once in while. Guess this is one. I'm just so tired of being sick and tired!!! I'm currently on Remicade for a year which has done WONDERS for my skin rash. For this I am very grateful. I'm also on prednisone 10mg/13mgs alternate day dosage and am slowly weaning down the 13 to 10. (one mg every 6 weeks). I'm on methotrexate 12.5 mg orally each week. The long term prednisone use has caused osteoporosis, high BP, high trigylcerides & cholesterol and stomach troubles, all of which I take more Rx's for. I also have extensive calcifications in my muscles that cause a lot of stiffness and pain at times. I sound like a total mess but I get by pretty good. My main complaint right now (thank you all for listening to this long, tedious message) is that since last summer I have developed neuropathy and it is driving me crazy. I am very unstable and am having a hard time walking 4 feet with my walker without feeling like I am going to fall. I fell last week (tripped) but unrelated to this unstable feeling. Falling is my biggest fear! The Dr thinks it is a combination of the neuropathy and my weak muscles and poor balance. The proprioceptors having a hard time figuring out my postion or something like that. ANYONE have the same thing with walking and balance and do you have any suggestions or thoughts on what might help?
Vitamin supplements, exercise, acupuncture, massage?? The pain is not too bad though my BIG fear is that it WILL get
worse as time goes by. Mostly numb and tingling feet, worse if I sit or stand for a long time. This is really getting me down right now and not many people understand this spacy, unbalanced feeling. Thanks for any suggestions, Sincerely, "Discouraged in WA." Ann
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Diabetics can get neuropathy too. I have a friend who has diabetic neuropathy.. I should get tested too. but my falling is from weak muscles and polym and so MUCH PREDNISONE over the years.. all the best Karen
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Hi Ann, welcome to the club. I alas, also have neuropathy. From what I understand it is common among people with Aids, Hansons Disease (leprosy) Alcoholism, Diabetis and none of the above. Some people think there is a tie up with chemicals like ddt etc. In my case I think it was mixed up with colon cancer, it is a good idea to check that you have no abdominal cancer of any kind. Mine was picked up by noticing a falling blood count. I have a monthly blood test where they put me under the microscope. Better to be sure than sorry. Well, back to the neuropathy. Some people just have minor tingling and irritation, others have full on pain including electrical shock, stabbing pain and burning pain. If the damage is to the myelin sheaths the pain is more severe. Neurontin will fix the first sort, makes you a little drowsy for a start, but you adjust to it. Alas, when that is fixed you realise that it is masking the burning which gets worse. I have had a rough time trying to get some help for the latter, believe it or not, the Pain Clinic needed a lot of convincing to listen to me, but recently I was put on MS Contin which is morphia. I had to go into hospital to adjust to the dose, but that was probably because of my age 75 and my history of bad drug reaction. I only came home at the weekend, but I think I am getting there. I have Ultram for breakthrough pain. If the pain is severe there are also patches. In Australia they cost about $1000 a year as opposed to $1.60 a month for the pills. If you would like to talk to me without boring the rest of the group you can email me on mmcnish@bigppond.net.au. But keep switching on to Jim's site. You will learn a lot here. Don't be afraid to ask questions, even if you think they may be too simple. People here are very friendly and we all have our own problems and if our history can help you we are only too delighted to lend our advice. Good luck. Mary
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Hi Ann,
I have IBM and neuropathy. My Dr started me on Neurontin last fall and slowly raised dosage to 300mg three times a day. It has really helped about tingling and burning pain in my feet and legs. It may make you sleepy the first few days but that wears off when your body adjust to it.8>)
Hugs
Dorris
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Hi Ann: I like you have had DM for 28 1/2 years and also unfortunately like you, I can barely walk. The best I can do is 25 feet and then I must sit down and rest. I also have the neuropathy, but I'm not sure if I'm being treated or not. I feel normal in my own house, but that's because my sweet hubby made it "normal" for me. He raised my recliner with blocks so I could get up easier, but even that's starting to fail, the next step will be a handicapped recliner which lifts you to a standing position. For outside I use a handicapped scooter and no, I do very little driving anymore. I just don't feel safe driving anymore. I'm glad you found this board and if you wish to email my email address is:mittens@hnet.net. Take care and hang in there and I hope you'll be feeling better soon.
Helen.
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Hi Ann- Welcome aboard our myositis train.We all have a stamped ticket.We don't know where we're headed but at least we're on here together.No need to suffer alone anymore just log on here.We will lend an ear and maybe a little help along the way. I've had poly for 15 years but not neuropathy that I know of.Mary on here has it and takes neurontin for it.I think it has helped her worse symptoms somewhat.She can fill you in more. I fell constantly and finally settled for the safety of a wheelchair while I had a few brain cells left.I pushed my wheelchair around the house for a lon time.It was more stable than a walker and was great for loading up laundry. Let know some of your managing skills and how you cope. Jan
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Ann - As I welcomed you to our site, we are pleased that you told us about your illness. I have IBM so can't offer you any help with your disease, but Dr. Aziz Shaibani, director of Nerve & Muscle Clinic of Texas at the Houston medical school, and I are co-authoring "Coping with Neuropathy." It will be having real-life stories about how Neuropathy and it's accompanying diseases from the patients. The book will be quite similar to the "Coping with a Myositis Disease" book that is available following the links on the HOME board. I wasn't aware that Neuropathy is usually always associated with other diseases. Several of the stories which have come in from the patients say that the drug "Neutron" (I hope this is spelled right) has been a God-send for their Neuropathy. You might suggest it to your doctor to see if it helps you. I learned that Neuropathy is involved in diabetes, AIDS, all kinds of muscle disorders and other medical problems I never thought about any association with Neuropathy. I thought it sort of stood alone. But the sooner you seek treatment, the better you will be. Of the real life stories of those using Neutron (sp?) tell of being able to walk only a few feet, then up to 10 min, slowing increasing to an hour, while regaining their balancing act. I wish you well, Ann.
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Thank you Jim for your thoughts and ideas, I look forward to your new book, I have a copy of "Coping with Myositis" which I very much enjoyed. I'm not sure Neuropathy and Myositis are related or it to any other diseases but it seems like a lot of Myositis sufferers also have neuropathy, maybe it's just that our immune systems and bodies are weak and more susceptible to other problems.
Anyway thanks again. I sure enjoy & appreciate this baord and the people on it. Your efforts have enriched a lot of lives, mine included. Warmly, Ann
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Thanks, Ann, for the nice message. I didn't intend to mean that ALL Myositis patients have a tendency to get Neuropathy. Studies have shown that 10-15% of IBM'ers have a form of Neuropathy. The studies of PM and Neuropathy are less than those percentages. In the forthcoming book, I've receoved, w/n the past two weeks, two stories about Neuropathy & IBM and two stories about Neuropathy & PM - so the book with have at least two sections: Neuropathy and all the related diseases, then Neuropathy with Myositis diseases. If you would like to send for a data form to submit your story of Neuropathy (the good, the bad, the ugly), please email me personally ("Contact Us" on HOME board).
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Hi Jim, I just thought I would add my two cents regarding neuropathy. My husband has developed it in his feet but he also developed diabetes as a result of taking high doses of , first prednisone and then solumedrol.
Is it a double whammy, diabetes and IBM? I don't know but I do know the neurontin has helped a great deal.God bless and hugs to you and Kelly.... Phyllis
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Kelly and I thank you for your kind words. It takes much effort, work, stress, strain and funds to have a website as large as ours - the largest of any Myositis website - the success our website has become. If you and husband are interested in submitting your Neuropathy & IBM story for the book, go to HOME and click "Contact Us - me)" and I will send you the data form to follow. (Or simply email me from my posting.) Again, thank you for your message. I love the warm, fussy feeling I get while reading such messages. - Jim IBM
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I know it's just me, but I get very frustrated and feel quite the "out" person when I read a string like this. I submitted my details re neuropathy but got no response. I had peripheral polyneuropathy and wore braces for two years for bilateral foot-drop, falling onto the fireplace once and being stranded in my potting shed about 50 feet from the back door once for about 30 minutes, not able to walk to my back deck. After two years, I determined to take the braces off, and I did. My legs and feet were weak but no foot-drop for a couple months until I recovered my muscle strength. I have five autoimmune diseases and one of them is diabetes mellitus with a controlled blood sugar, but if you have diabetes, the other damaging factors continue even if your sugar is controlled. I have had DM two years. The first, untreated year I had only skin problems on top of those of Sjogren's. In one year I've come to a point that most people here describe as taking 25-30 years to reach. I had systemic Sjogren's with mixed underlying connective tissue disease (or autoimmune disease if you will) for 10-1/2 years prior to that. Lupus (which is almost always positive when DM is diagnosed) and Graves' disease of the thyroid are the other two autoimmune diseases with the most severe factors now being the DM and life-threatening drug reactions. As I say, when I read some of the other stories I get very confused about my condition as opposed to everyone else, and I still feel set apart somehow. I love everyone here, and as some know, I was really sick last week with that stomach virus; on Friday, I will be honest, I did not think I would make it through the day, and my husband worked 18 hours that day. Yes, I have severely burning, painful feet and the extreme weakness (but no foot-drop), tingling which progresses to a point of "no feeling at all", but I still think that this is all related to the DM. The "no feeling" extends up to my hips and is also present in my arms and hands, all the places where the severe muscle wasting is. My doctor indicated last week that we can't go down or up on the MTX and Pred. I can still drive but don't drive long distances because of pain and weakness. I just get very confused and like Edith, feel very alone, but it is with all the differences I read. This morning I sent a post to Karen in reply but it was not posted, so I am glad I came to the board. I "reposted" it from here. Susan
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Susan, I replied to you when you were so sick.I can't really respond to post on neuropathy because I don't have it,that I know of but I knew Mary does and I asked her about neurontin.I thought everyone could learn from her experience. I know you were really ill last week and I'm so happy you're doing better.I didn't know you were so ill until you were on the mend.You have more than your share of health problems.You always cheer us up on here with your poems and beautiful cards. Are you getting your strength back from being so sick? It took me quite awhile after the flu.Kelly was asking how your husband was doing after his car accident.You may have missed his post. Hugs,
Jan
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Susan the one thing you learn from these durned diseases is that though we are all the same, we are all different! I think we can really only tell it as it affects us. Hang in there. Good wishes from downunder.
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